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To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by clusterchuck » Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:38 am

Let's review the facts:

► Security cameras in and around the Capital building collected over >44,000 hours of video.

► Per Wiki: the "J6 committee" held its first public hearing 7/27/21. By October 2022, it had obtained over 1,000,000 documents and reviewed "hundreds of hours of videos (such as security camera and documentary footage)".

► Legacy media & the "J6 committee" showed the public video clip evidence of violence totaling approximately 60 minutes.

► This out of >44,000 hours recorded that day of which the "committee" reviewed "hundreds of hours".

Let's be generous and assume that the wiki entry describing the "committee" review of "hundreds of hours" of video = 350 hours. That means they reviewed 0.80% of the total video captured that day.
Care to dispute the 350 hour assumption? OK, expand to 500. That's still 1.14% of the 44,000 hour total.

So, the total video provided to the public of approx. 60 minutes means we've seen 0.00227% of the >44,000 hours recorded.
Care to dispute the 60 minute estimate? OK, let's leap to 5 hours shown to the public. That's 0.01818% of the 44,000 hour total.

And now, after seeing less than 0.02% of J6 surveillance video, the (D) party faithful are parroting their media masters spew: "republicans are selecting the material that DOESNT show criminal activity".

THIS is what passes for logic in the sleepwalking/lost in the media Matrix crowd.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by Shred » Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:44 am

Look, I saw the footage of the riots, I saw the assaults.
I saw the windows being smashed and I saw the footage of Ashli Babbitt ignoring warnings and getting herself shot.

The USA does not have a "left".
It has a centre right and a FAR RIGHT.

The far right brought everything on itself instead of taking electoral defeat on the chin and conceding with dignity.

These idiotic arguments from the far right now, it's the same flawed logic as holocaust denial.

Instead of owning your mistakes and resolving to fix them, you're denying they ever happened despite all the footage and the recorded statements of the barmpot ex President.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by Chester Cheesewright » Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:47 am

clusterchuck wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:38 am
Let's review the facts:

► Security cameras in and around the Capital building collected over >44,000 hours of video.

► Per Wiki: the "J6 committee" held its first public hearing 7/27/21. By October 2022, it had obtained over 1,000,000 documents and reviewed "hundreds of hours of videos (such as security camera and documentary footage)".

► Legacy media & the "J6 committee" showed the public video clip evidence of violence totaling approximately 60 minutes.

► This out of >44,000 hours recorded that day of which the "committee" reviewed "hundreds of hours".

Let's be generous and assume that the wiki entry describing the "committee" review of "hundreds of hours" of video = 350 hours. That means they reviewed 0.80% of the total video captured that day.
Care to dispute the 350 hour assumption? OK, expand to 500. That's still 1.14% of the 44,000 hour total.

So, the total video provided to the public of approx. 60 minutes means we've seen 0.00227% of the >44,000 hours recorded.
Care to dispute the 60 minute estimate? OK, let's leap to 5 hours shown to the public. That's 0.01818% of the 44,000 hour total.

And now, after seeing less than 0.02% of J6 surveillance video, the (D) party faithful are parroting their media masters spew: "republicans are selecting the material that DOESNT show criminal activity".

THIS is what passes for logic in the sleepwalking/lost in the media Matrix crowd.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by clusterchuck » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:54 pm

Shred wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:44 am
Look, I saw the footage of the riots, I saw the assaults.
I saw the windows being smashed and I saw the footage of Ashli Babbitt ignoring warnings and getting herself shot.

The USA does not have a "left".
It has a centre right and a FAR RIGHT.

The far right brought everything on itself instead of taking electoral defeat on the chin and conceding with dignity.

These idiotic arguments from the far right now, it's the same flawed logic as holocaust denial.

Instead of owning your mistakes and resolving to fix them, you're denying they ever happened despite all the footage and the recorded statements of the barmpot ex President.
I see. So, you're saying you saw the <0.02% video the whole world has seen. OK, can't argue with that. Although it's unclear why you think it important to state what was already stated in the OP.

Then, you deny the existence of the left in the U.S. - which answers the question: "does a leftist know how far left they are"? AH, that would be a NO.

Then, you say that by pointing out the world has only seen approximately 0.02% of available J6 video, this somehow equates to the "far right" using "holocaust denier logic". SHAZAM!. Who could say anything about that hallucination?

Finally & again, by pointing out the world has only seen approximately 0.02% of available J6 video, "I" am denying the existence of the violence the whole world has seen. Which answers the question: "Does a leftist know when they are hallucinating something not said or implied?" AH, that would also be a NO.

BOY HOWDY. That's a humdinger of a retort you got there Shred.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by Shred » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:05 pm

I saw a lot of footage.

Here is some of it:



This footage is from the Telegraph, the Telegraph is a Conservative newspaper in my country.

This footage is from the trial.


This footage is a recording of the moments before Babbitt committed suicide by cop.

I would have shot all those thugs if I'd been in that officer's shoes, he showed great restraint.


Fast forward to 1 minute 16.

You see those thugs turn on the cameraman in their midst and attack him.

This is what you are defending and trying to gloss over.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by stuporstitionist » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:24 pm

We should release the recordings without blurring people's faces!

Anyone who saw Jan 6th live as it happened knows it was an insurrection.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by nolaxride » Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:19 pm

clusterchuck wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:54 pm
Shred wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:44 am
Look, I saw the footage of the riots, I saw the assaults.
I saw the windows being smashed and I saw the footage of Ashli Babbitt ignoring warnings and getting herself shot.

The USA does not have a "left".
It has a centre right and a FAR RIGHT.

The far right brought everything on itself instead of taking electoral defeat on the chin and conceding with dignity.

These idiotic arguments from the far right now, it's the same flawed logic as holocaust denial.

Instead of owning your mistakes and resolving to fix them, you're denying they ever happened despite all the footage and the recorded statements of the barmpot ex President.
I see. So, you're saying you saw the <0.02% video the whole world has seen. OK, can't argue with that. Although it's unclear why you think it important to state what was already stated in the OP.

Then, you deny the existence of the left in the U.S. - which answers the question: "does a leftist know how far left they are"? AH, that would be a NO.

Then, you say that by pointing out the world has only seen approximately 0.02% of available J6 video, this somehow equates to the "far right" using "holocaust denier logic". SHAZAM!. Who could say anything about that hallucination?

Finally & again, by pointing out the world has only seen approximately 0.02% of available J6 video, "I" am denying the existence of the violence the whole world has seen. Which answers the question: "Does a leftist know when they are hallucinating something not said or implied?" AH, that would also be a NO.

BOY HOWDY. That's a humdinger of a retort you got there Shred.
So AI can't be used to search vids? And how did the J6 committee find all of those violent vids if they didn't view the vids?

44k hours is at regular playback speed. Speed that up 100x, which allows you to skip all of the boring empty halls, and you've reduced it to a manageable number. And that's irrelevant. Post ALL of the 44k hours and let the public decide for themselves.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by psk836 » Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:23 pm

clusterchuck wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:38 am
Let's review the facts:

► Security cameras in and around the Capital building collected over >44,000 hours of video.

► Per Wiki: the "J6 committee" held its first public hearing 7/27/21. By October 2022, it had obtained over 1,000,000 documents and reviewed "hundreds of hours of videos (such as security camera and documentary footage)".

► Legacy media & the "J6 committee" showed the public video clip evidence of violence totaling approximately 60 minutes.

► This out of >44,000 hours recorded that day of which the "committee" reviewed "hundreds of hours".

Let's be generous and assume that the wiki entry describing the "committee" review of "hundreds of hours" of video = 350 hours. That means they reviewed 0.80% of the total video captured that day.
Care to dispute the 350 hour assumption? OK, expand to 500. That's still 1.14% of the 44,000 hour total.

So, the total video provided to the public of approx. 60 minutes means we've seen 0.00227% of the >44,000 hours recorded.
Care to dispute the 60 minute estimate? OK, let's leap to 5 hours shown to the public. That's 0.01818% of the 44,000 hour total.

And now, after seeing less than 0.02% of J6 surveillance video, the (D) party faithful are parroting their media masters spew: "republicans are selecting the material that DOESNT show criminal activity".

THIS is what passes for logic in the sleepwalking/lost in the media Matrix crowd.
You mean, the 99.98% of video that does not show criminal activity. The 99.98% outliers. Vs the .02% of video that defines the day.

Tell me again about free speech and a free press.
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by nolaxride » Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:24 pm

Shred wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:05 pm
I saw a lot of footage.

Here is some of it:



This footage is from the Telegraph, the Telegraph is a Conservative newspaper in my country.

This footage is from the trial.


This footage is a recording of the moments before Babbitt committed suicide by cop.

I would have shot all those thugs if I'd been in that officer's shoes, he showed great restraint.


Fast forward to 1 minute 16.

You see those thugs turn on the cameraman in their midst and attack him.

This is what you are defending and trying to gloss over.
Wow... and MTG said they were invited in... why did they have to break down a door?
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Re: To summarize the lefts narrative about public access to J6 recordings

Post by Shred » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:59 pm

And suddenly the deniers are silent.
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