How George Floyd Really Died

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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by Shred » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:59 pm

You're ignoring the facts about the carotid arteries which are on THE SIDES of the neck.

Where was that murderer's knee? On his carotid arteries. Stopping blood flow to his brain even after he went unconscious.

Stop ignoring biology.
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by nolaxride » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:08 pm

psk836 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:51 pm
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Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:43 pm
Compression of the carotid arteries constrained blood flow to the brain resulting in unconsciousness, heart stopping and death.
'"As recently reported in these pages, Hennepin County prosecutors knew from day one how George Floyd did not die. Medical Examiner Andrew Baker reported to the prosecutors the evening following Floyd’s May 25, 2020, death, “There were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr. Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation.”

For political reasons, the prosecutors buried the truth. To save his career and possibly his life, Baker finessed his findings to include “neck compression” and declared the manner of death a homicide. So doing, he gave the state the wiggle room it needed to slip a noose around Chauvin’s neck."

You weren't here. Everybody involved in this investigation and trial, from the Police Dept to the mayor, to the judge and members of the jury, were well aware that their safety and possibly their lives were on the line depending on the desired outcome of the Chauvin trial.
There is no proof they 'buried' the truth. There is only one doctor's opinion based on an unproven theory. The Coroner attributed the death to cardiopulmonary arrest and found the heart arteries significantly narrowed. Suggesting that Baker made his finding to "save his career and possibly his life" is sheer speculation and poor journalism, and only serves to make yet another conspiracy theory plausible.
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by psk836 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:18 pm

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I would like to verify the tumor diagnosis and its alleged effects, but the actual court determination has never made sense.

The tumor, the fentanyl, the meth, the deleterious effects of all of the above on Floyd’s heart, coupled with eyewitness testimony and observations indicated the suffocation process was underway long before Floyd was ever placed on the ground, and well before Derek Chauvin implemented the MSP restraint procedure for non compliant detainees.
Page 13 of Floyd's autopsy confirms that Floyd did have the paraganglioma tumor.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/d ... aganglioma

Symptoms:
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/d ... aganglioma
"A paraganglioma (also known as an extra-adrenal pheochromocytoma) is a rare neuroendocrine tumor (NET) that forms near your carotid artery (the major blood vessels in your neck), along nerve pathways in your head and neck and in other parts of your body. The tumor is made of a certain type of cell called chromaffin cells, which produce and release certain hormones known as catecholamines.

Your adrenal glands, the two glands that are on top of each kidney, make several hormones. Among these are hormones called catecholamines that help control the following important bodily functions:

Heart rate.
Blood pressure.
Blood sugar (blood glucose).
The way your body responds to stress.
The primary catecholamines include:

Dopamine.
Epinephrine (adrenaline).
Norepinephrine (noradrenaline).
Even though paragangliomas don’t form in your adrenal glands, they’re made of tissue that’s found in your adrenal glands. Paragangliomas may release extra catecholamines into your blood, causing certain signs and symptoms."

"Signs and symptoms of paraganglioma happen when the tumor releases too much adrenaline or noradrenaline into your blood. However, some paraganglioma tumors don’t make extra adrenaline or noradrenaline and don’t cause symptoms (are asymptomatic). Common symptoms of paraganglioma include episodes of:

High blood pressure (hypertension).
Headaches.
Excessive sweating for no known reason.
A pounding, fast or irregular heartbeat.
Feeling shaky."

Effects of excessive catecholamines release:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 40839/full
"Catecholamine surges and resultant excessive β-adrenergic stimulation occur in a broad spectrum of diseases. Excessive β-adrenergic stimulation causes cardiomyocyte necrosis, but the underlying mechanism remains obscure. Necroptosis, a major form of regulated necrosis mediated by RIPK3-centered pathways, is implicated in heart failure;"

"In response to physical (e.g., cardiac failure and stroke) or emotional stressors, the sympathetic nervous system and the hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis become hyperactive and give rise to catecholamine surges and cardiac injury (1–3). Catecholamine surges can also occur in some of the less common clinical conditions. For example, in patients with pheochromocytoma or paraganglioma,

"Cardiac injury has long been observed in diseases associated with catecholamine surges."

1. George Floyd had a paraganglioma tumor.
2. Paraganglioma tumors cause catecholamine surges in "fight or flight" situations.
3. Catecholamine surges cause cardiac injury.
4. Floyd's catacholamine surge began before officers placed him on the ground, and before Derek Chauvin implemented the MSP restraint procedure for non-compliant detainees.

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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by Shred » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:20 pm

Would you let a brute like Chauvin kneel on your neck for 10 minutes, compressing your arteries, or do you think you might die?
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by psk836 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:21 pm

Shred wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:59 pm
You're ignoring the facts about the carotid arteries which are on THE SIDES of the neck.

Where was that murderer's knee? On his carotid arteries. Stopping blood flow to his brain even after he went unconscious.

Stop ignoring biology.
Chauvin's knee was between George Floyd's shoulder blades.
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by psk836 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:23 pm

Shred wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:20 pm
Would you let a brute like Chauvin kneel on your neck for 10 minutes, compressing your arteries, or do you think you might die?
Chauvin is 5'9 and 140 lbs. George Floyd was 6'6" and over 240 lbs.
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by Shred » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:52 pm

Irrelevant, the issue is the carotid artery, which was never meant to be knelt on.

Even strong man Eddie Hall's carotid arteries would not be able to withstand 10 minutes of constant compression, despite his immense physical strength and size.
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by Evil » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:08 pm

psk836 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:21 pm
Shred wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:59 pm
You're ignoring the facts about the carotid arteries which are on THE SIDES of the neck.

Where was that murderer's knee? On his carotid arteries. Stopping blood flow to his brain even after he went unconscious.

Stop ignoring biology.
Chauvin's knee was between George Floyd's shoulder blades.
Are you incapable of telling the truth?
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Re: How George Floyd Really Died

Post by Shred » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:17 pm

The photo speaks for itself.
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