China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

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China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by psk836 » Tue May 04, 2021 11:29 am

But in the meantime they will be happy to make your solar panels and wind turbines using Uyghur slave labor.

And laugh and laugh as they watch the West commit green suicide.

https://joannenova.com.au/2021/05/chine ... -use-coal/

'“China’s energy structure is dominated by coal power. This is an objective reality,” said Su Wei, deputy secretary-general of the National Development and Reform Commission. CNBC translated his Mandarin-language comments, which he made late last week following Xi’s separate remarks at a U.S.-led global leaders climate summit.

“Because renewable energy (sources such as) wind and solar power are intermittent and unstable, we must rely on a stable power source,” Su said. “We have no other choice. For a period of time, we may need to use coal power as a point of flexible adjustment.”

He added that coal is readily available, while renewable energy needs to develop further in China."

China will win its war with the West without having to fire a single shot.
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by KC_ » Tue May 04, 2021 12:03 pm

psk836 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:29 am
But in the meantime they will be happy to make your solar panels and wind turbines using Uyghur slave labor.

And laugh and laugh as they watch the West commit green suicide.

https://joannenova.com.au/2021/05/chine ... -use-coal/

'“China’s energy structure is dominated by coal power. This is an objective reality,” said Su Wei, deputy secretary-general of the National Development and Reform Commission. CNBC translated his Mandarin-language comments, which he made late last week following Xi’s separate remarks at a U.S.-led global leaders climate summit.

“Because renewable energy (sources such as) wind and solar power are intermittent and unstable, we must rely on a stable power source,” Su said. “We have no other choice. For a period of time, we may need to use coal power as a point of flexible adjustment.”

He added that coal is readily available, while renewable energy needs to develop further in China."

China will win its war with the West without having to fire a single shot.
With leaders like Uncle Joe winning will be a walk in the park for China .
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by psk836 » Tue May 04, 2021 12:07 pm

Imagine what they will do to our environment once they control us. Hell just look at what they've done to their own environment.
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by Evil » Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm

Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by KC_ » Tue May 04, 2021 12:18 pm

Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jake-schmi ... ate-action
Sure . When the Chi-Coms say they are going to do something, they always do it . I mean they wouldn’t lie. I mean they are staunch environmentalists.
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by Evil » Tue May 04, 2021 12:20 pm

KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:18 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jake-schmi ... ate-action
Sure . When the Chi-Coms say they are going to do something, they always do it . I mean they wouldn’t lie. I mean they are staunch environmentalists.
I see. So you pick and choose when to believe them based on whether or not it fits the narrative.
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by KC_ » Tue May 04, 2021 12:23 pm

Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:20 pm
KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:18 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jake-schmi ... ate-action
Sure . When the Chi-Coms say they are going to do something, they always do it . I mean they wouldn’t lie. I mean they are staunch environmentalists.
I see. So you pick and choose when to believe them based on whether or not it fits the narrative.
I believe them based on the facts of the situation. They lie when it suits their purposes. Do you believe them.
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by Evil » Tue May 04, 2021 12:26 pm

KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:23 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:20 pm
KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:18 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jake-schmi ... ate-action
Sure . When the Chi-Coms say they are going to do something, they always do it . I mean they wouldn’t lie. I mean they are staunch environmentalists.
I see. So you pick and choose when to believe them based on whether or not it fits the narrative.
I believe them based on the facts of the situation. They lie when it suits their purposes. Do you believe them.
They've set targets. Now I expect them to meet them. They have yet to back off those targets so I have no reason not to believe them.
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by KC_ » Tue May 04, 2021 12:28 pm

Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:26 pm
KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:23 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:20 pm
KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:18 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jake-schmi ... ate-action
Sure . When the Chi-Coms say they are going to do something, they always do it . I mean they wouldn’t lie. I mean they are staunch environmentalists.
I see. So you pick and choose when to believe them based on whether or not it fits the narrative.
I believe them based on the facts of the situation. They lie when it suits their purposes. Do you believe them.
They've set targets. Now I expect them to meet them. They have yet to back off those targets so I have no reason not to believe them.
Really . Their history of duplicity and human rights violations over the last 70 years isn’t reason enough ?
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Re: China: Wind And Solar Too Unstable, Will Stick With Coal

Post by Evil » Tue May 04, 2021 12:30 pm

KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:28 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:26 pm
KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:23 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:20 pm
KC_ wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:18 pm
Evil wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Specifically, President Xi committed to (read the speech here) - values compared to 2005 levels:

Reduce carbon intensity by over 65% by 2030 (compared to its initial commitment of 60-65%)—it was at 48.1% at the end of 2019;
Increase non-fossil energy to around 25% by 2030 (compared to 20% in their current target)—it was at 15.3% at the end of 2019;
Increase forest stock volume to 6 billion cubic meters by 2030 (compared to 4.5 billion in their current target)—it was approximately 4.5 billion cubic meters at the end of 2019; and
Increase total installed capacity of wind and solar to 1,200 gigawatts by 2030 (no previous target)—it was at 415 gigawatts at the end of 2019.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jake-schmi ... ate-action
Sure . When the Chi-Coms say they are going to do something, they always do it . I mean they wouldn’t lie. I mean they are staunch environmentalists.
I see. So you pick and choose when to believe them based on whether or not it fits the narrative.
I believe them based on the facts of the situation. They lie when it suits their purposes. Do you believe them.
They've set targets. Now I expect them to meet them. They have yet to back off those targets so I have no reason not to believe them.
Really . Their history of duplicity and human rights violations over the last 70 years isn’t reason enough ?
Their history on human rights has nothing to do with this. You don't have to believe them.
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