The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

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The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by lust4beer » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm

It’s pretty clear why Team Trump didn’t want Marie Yovanovitch speaking out

WASHINGTON — Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, defied the Trump administration on Friday and spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators about her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out.
According to news reports about her remarks, Yovanovitch, a three-time ambassador who was appointed to the Ukraine post by President Obama, said in her opening statement that she was “incredulous” about the reasons for her removal this spring and that her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

“Finally, after being asked by the Department in early March to extend my tour until 2020, I was then abruptly told in late April to come back to Washington from Ukraine ‘on the next plane,'” she said.
Yovanovitch told investigators that the deputy secretary at the State Department told her that she had “done nothing wrong” but that there was a “concerted campaign” against her. In May Trump finally removed her from her post. Yovanovitch still works at the State Department in a different role, and by defying the department’s demand that she not sit for a deposition, she could face punishment for her speaking out.
In her comments, Yovanovitch, who has worked at the State Department for three decades, lamented the dangerous direction that the department has taken under Trump and his handpicked secretary of state, Mike Pompeo. “Today we see the State Department attacked and hollowed out from within,” she said. If members of Congress didn’t step up to defend the department from the Trump administration’s meddling, “I fear that not doing so will harm our nation’s interest, perhaps irreparably.”
Among the people pushing to get rid of Yovanovitch were Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and two of Giuliani’s clients, Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas, who were arrested this week on charges of making illegal campaign donations and illegally funneling foreign money into U.S. elections. With Trump’s blessing, Giuliani operated in 2018 and 2019 a shadow foreign policy in which he met with Ukrainian officials and urged them to investigate Joe Biden for corruption — all with the aim of helping Trump’s 2020 reelection bid.

The intelligence community whistleblower’s complaint also describes the months-long campaign to push out Yovanovitch. “Several US officials told me that, in fact, her tour was curtailed because of pressure stemming from” baseless allegations made by a desperate Ukrainian official who was trying to curry favor with the Trump administration, the whistleblower wrote. “Mr. Giuliani subsequently stated in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist published on 14 May that Ambassador Yovanovitch was ‘removed…because she was part of the efforts against the President.'”
Giuliani and his cronies viewed Yovanovitch as an obstacle to their efforts because, as Yovanovitch put it in her comments to Congress, she viewed Giuliani’s theories about Biden and corruption to be baseless. Indeed, there is no evidence to back up the theory peddled by Trump, Giuliani, and others that Biden, when he was vice president, he used his influence to get Ukraine’s top prosecutor fired to benefit his son Hunter, who had taken a position with a scandal-plagued energy company. But in the eyes of Trump, Yovanovitch was disloyal and needed to be removed.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ss-898146/
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by clusterchuck » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:00 pm

lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm

"her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out"
“incredulous” about the reasons for her removal"

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"Trump and his handpicked secretary of state"

Isn't every member of the Cabinet "hand picked" by the current administration?

If one were to read the Rolling Stone article without knowing how government operates, they might get the wrong idea.

And, at the beginning of the article:
"spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators"
"According to news reports about her remarks"

How can remarks made behind closed doors result in "news reports"?

Lotta fishy stuff goin' on here. And it ain't just the tRump admin.
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by barrysoetoro » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:01 pm

lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm
It’s pretty clear why Team Trump didn’t want Marie Yovanovitch speaking out

WASHINGTON — Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, defied the Trump administration on Friday and spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators about her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out.
According to news reports about her remarks, Yovanovitch, a three-time ambassador who was appointed to the Ukraine post by President Obama, said in her opening statement that she was “incredulous” about the reasons for her removal this spring and that her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

“Finally, after being asked by the Department in early March to extend my tour until 2020, I was then abruptly told in late April to come back to Washington from Ukraine ‘on the next plane,'” she said.
Yovanovitch told investigators that the deputy secretary at the State Department told her that she had “done nothing wrong” but that there was a “concerted campaign” against her. In May Trump finally removed her from her post. Yovanovitch still works at the State Department in a different role, and by defying the department’s demand that she not sit for a deposition, she could face punishment for her speaking out.
In her comments, Yovanovitch, who has worked at the State Department for three decades, lamented the dangerous direction that the department has taken under Trump and his handpicked secretary of state, Mike Pompeo. “Today we see the State Department attacked and hollowed out from within,” she said. If members of Congress didn’t step up to defend the department from the Trump administration’s meddling, “I fear that not doing so will harm our nation’s interest, perhaps irreparably.”
Among the people pushing to get rid of Yovanovitch were Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and two of Giuliani’s clients, Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas, who were arrested this week on charges of making illegal campaign donations and illegally funneling foreign money into U.S. elections. With Trump’s blessing, Giuliani operated in 2018 and 2019 a shadow foreign policy in which he met with Ukrainian officials and urged them to investigate Joe Biden for corruption — all with the aim of helping Trump’s 2020 reelection bid.

The intelligence community whistleblower’s complaint also describes the months-long campaign to push out Yovanovitch. “Several US officials told me that, in fact, her tour was curtailed because of pressure stemming from” baseless allegations made by a desperate Ukrainian official who was trying to curry favor with the Trump administration, the whistleblower wrote. “Mr. Giuliani subsequently stated in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist published on 14 May that Ambassador Yovanovitch was ‘removed…because she was part of the efforts against the President.'”
Giuliani and his cronies viewed Yovanovitch as an obstacle to their efforts because, as Yovanovitch put it in her comments to Congress, she viewed Giuliani’s theories about Biden and corruption to be baseless. Indeed, there is no evidence to back up the theory peddled by Trump, Giuliani, and others that Biden, when he was vice president, he used his influence to get Ukraine’s top prosecutor fired to benefit his son Hunter, who had taken a position with a scandal-plagued energy company. But in the eyes of Trump, Yovanovitch was disloyal and needed to be removed.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ss-898146/
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by barrysoetoro » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:03 pm

clusterchuck wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:00 pm
lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm
"spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators"
"her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out"
“incredulous” about the reasons for her removal"

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"Trump and his handpicked secretary of state"

Isn't every member of the Cabinet "hand picked" by the current administration?

If one were to read the Rolling Stone article without knowing how government operates, they might get the wrong idea.

And, at the beginning of the article:
"According to news reports about her remarks"

How can remarks made behind closed doors result in "news reports"?

Lotta fishy stuff goin' on here. And it ain't just the tRump admin.
Who did you want for President? Ron Paul? Rand?
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by clusterchuck » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:07 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:03 pm
clusterchuck wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:00 pm
lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm
"spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators"
"her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out"
“incredulous” about the reasons for her removal"

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"Trump and his handpicked secretary of state"

Isn't every member of the Cabinet "hand picked" by the current administration?

If one were to read the Rolling Stone article without knowing how government operates, they might get the wrong idea.

And, at the beginning of the article:
"According to news reports about her remarks"

How can remarks made behind closed doors result in "news reports"?

Lotta fishy stuff goin' on here. And it ain't just the tRump admin.
Who did you want for President? Ron Paul? Rand?
The candidate I wanted to win is in office. Am I supposed to not notice fishy stuff on both sides of the aisle?
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by barrysoetoro » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm

clusterchuck wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:07 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:03 pm
clusterchuck wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:00 pm
lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm
"spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators"
"her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out"
“incredulous” about the reasons for her removal"

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"Trump and his handpicked secretary of state"

Isn't every member of the Cabinet "hand picked" by the current administration?

If one were to read the Rolling Stone article without knowing how government operates, they might get the wrong idea.

And, at the beginning of the article:
"According to news reports about her remarks"

How can remarks made behind closed doors result in "news reports"?

Lotta fishy stuff goin' on here. And it ain't just the tRump admin.
Who did you want for President? Ron Paul? Rand?
The candidate I wanted to win is in office. Am I supposed to not notice fishy stuff on both sides of the aisle?
Hold that thought. Did you just vote for him for the "anybody but Hillary" reason?

Just wondering about the "tRump" slander. You sure complain about him a lot, curious.
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by lust4beer » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:46 pm

clusterchuck wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:00 pm
lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm

"her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out"
“incredulous” about the reasons for her removal"

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"Trump and his handpicked secretary of state"

Isn't every member of the Cabinet "hand picked" by the current administration?

If one were to read the Rolling Stone article without knowing how government operates, they might get the wrong idea.

And, at the beginning of the article:
"spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators"
"According to news reports about her remarks"

How can remarks made behind closed doors result in "news reports"?

Lotta fishy stuff goin' on here. And it ain't just the tRump admin.
Leaks be leaks

How are you Chuck?
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Post by thelionofthenorth » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:30 pm

She couldn’t have eviscerated him: tRump had no guts to start with.
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by barrysoetoro » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:33 am

lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:46 pm
clusterchuck wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:00 pm
lust4beer wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:09 pm

"her ouster and the conspiracy theory driving the campaign to push her out"
“incredulous” about the reasons for her removal"

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"her firing was “based, as far as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”

Every U.S. Ambassador serves at the pleasure of a sitting pResident, dismissal from office is part and parcel of administrative evolution.

"Trump and his handpicked secretary of state"

Isn't every member of the Cabinet "hand picked" by the current administration?

If one were to read the Rolling Stone article without knowing how government operates, they might get the wrong idea.

And, at the beginning of the article:
"spoke behind closed doors with congressional investigators"
"According to news reports about her remarks"

How can remarks made behind closed doors result in "news reports"?

Lotta fishy stuff goin' on here. And it ain't just the tRump admin.
Leaks be leaks

How are you Chuck?
HEY ASSHAT HE JUST SAID HE VOTED FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS THE AIDS CAUSING YOU MORE STUPIDITY?
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Re: The Ex-Ambassador Who Wouldn’t Endorse Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Eviscerated Him in Congress

Post by barrysoetoro » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:33 am

thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:30 pm
She couldn’t have eviscerated him: tRump had no guts to start with.
has lust 4 queers ever said anything intelligent?
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