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Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by psk836 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:23 am

https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/10/neve ... ailed-you/

"Consider John Brennan. Here is a man who was a self-described Communist when he joined the CIA in the Reagan Administration, at the height of Cold War against the Soviet Union. A supposed expert in U.S. foreign policy toward the Middle East, as well as a fluent Arabic speaker, Brennan eventually rose to the rank of CIA station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (where he may or may not have converted to Islam).

While there, Brennan apparently developed a powerful case of “clientitis” (a term for when U.S. foreign policy experts become so involved in their regions of focus that they start substituting U.S. national interests for those of the countries they are observing).

Brennan routinely ignored calls from his colleagues to pressure his Saudi counterparts to hand over more information on bin Laden and the rising al-Qaeda terrorist network in the 1990s (al-Qaeda was, first and foremost, a political and religious movement consisting of and controlled mostly by Saudi nationals).

Things got so bad with Brennan that when the Clinton Administration considered using force either to kill or capture bin Laden in the 1990s, Brennan led the effort to stop it."

"In a bygone era, after enduring a catastrophic professional disaster, men like John Brennan would have been forced to resign.

Instead, Brennan got a promotion. Barack Obama elevated him to CIA director in his second term. Brennan’s short-sightedness and incompetence eventually calcified into outright hostility for the very democratic ideals that he was purportedly defending. For instance, when the American people began questioning the authority that our opaque intelligence services had assumed in the dark days following the 9/11 attacks, Brennan used the potent power of the CIA to spy on members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who were charged with investigating reports that detainees in CIA custody may have been subjected to abuse."

"The trajectory of Brennan’s career is a perfect snapshot for the growth—and compounding failures—of the U.S. national security state since 9/11. Many of the same people who refused to accept that al-Qaeda was a threat, or who advanced equally disastrous policies in the Middle East, are the same individuals who launched a frightening covert, rolling, administrative coup against a duly elected president. Not only is our deep state painfully incompetent but it is also clearly corrupt."
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by barrysoetoro » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am

Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by nolaxride » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:20 am

psk836 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:23 am
https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/10/neve ... ailed-you/

"Consider John Brennan. Here is a man who was a self-described Communist when he joined the CIA in the Reagan Administration, at the height of Cold War against the Soviet Union. A supposed expert in U.S. foreign policy toward the Middle East, as well as a fluent Arabic speaker, Brennan eventually rose to the rank of CIA station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (where he may or may not have converted to Islam).

While there, Brennan apparently developed a powerful case of “clientitis” (a term for when U.S. foreign policy experts become so involved in their regions of focus that they start substituting U.S. national interests for those of the countries they are observing).

Brennan routinely ignored calls from his colleagues to pressure his Saudi counterparts to hand over more information on bin Laden and the rising al-Qaeda terrorist network in the 1990s (al-Qaeda was, first and foremost, a political and religious movement consisting of and controlled mostly by Saudi nationals).

Things got so bad with Brennan that when the Clinton Administration considered using force either to kill or capture bin Laden in the 1990s, Brennan led the effort to stop it."

"In a bygone era, after enduring a catastrophic professional disaster, men like John Brennan would have been forced to resign.

Instead, Brennan got a promotion. Barack Obama elevated him to CIA director in his second term. Brennan’s short-sightedness and incompetence eventually calcified into outright hostility for the very democratic ideals that he was purportedly defending. For instance, when the American people began questioning the authority that our opaque intelligence services had assumed in the dark days following the 9/11 attacks, Brennan used the potent power of the CIA to spy on members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who were charged with investigating reports that detainees in CIA custody may have been subjected to abuse."

"The trajectory of Brennan’s career is a perfect snapshot for the growth—and compounding failures—of the U.S. national security state since 9/11. Many of the same people who refused to accept that al-Qaeda was a threat, or who advanced equally disastrous policies in the Middle East, are the same individuals who launched a frightening covert, rolling, administrative coup against a duly elected president. Not only is our deep state painfully incompetent but it is also clearly corrupt."
Great conspiracy theory. The only thing you missed was calling him a Muslim.
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by nolaxride » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by psk836 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:39 am

nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
Look up Gorelick's Wall.
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by barrysoetoro » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 am

nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
"americanprogress.org"

Keep making an ass out of your stupid self, you gullible pos.
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by nolaxride » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:46 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 am
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
"americanprogress.org"

Keep making an ass out of your stupid self, you gullible pos.
Your feeble attempt to discredit the facts by denigrating the source doesn't work when the link is to Ashcroft's documents.

And, of course, you ignored the 9-11 report.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/arch ... -04-13.htm

Is your brain cell spinning yet?
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by barrysoetoro » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:39 am

nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:46 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 am
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
"americanprogress.org"

Keep making an ass out of your stupid self, you gullible pos.
Your feeble attempt to discredit the facts by denigrating the source doesn't work when the link is to Ashcroft's documents.

And, of course, you ignored the 9-11 report.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/arch ... -04-13.htm

Is your brain cell spinning yet?
there he goes again, pulling a source out of his ass, then pointing at it from a distance. Copy and paste some text to backup your nonsense
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by nolaxride » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:47 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:39 am
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:46 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 am
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
"americanprogress.org"

Keep making an ass out of your stupid self, you gullible pos.
Your feeble attempt to discredit the facts by denigrating the source doesn't work when the link is to Ashcroft's documents.

And, of course, you ignored the 9-11 report.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/arch ... -04-13.htm

Is your brain cell spinning yet?
there he goes again, pulling a source out of his ass, then pointing at it from a distance. Copy and paste some text to backup your nonsense
I see you're still having difficulty following links and reading sources.
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Re: Never Forget How US Intelligence Failed Us

Post by barrysoetoro » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:42 am

nolaxride wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:47 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:39 am
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:46 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 am
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:27 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:28 am
Bill Clinton is the one that gutted our intel. He treated all his attacks like a law enforcement issue.

Yet that idiot nobain wants to blame it on President Bush
ROTFLMAO... where do you get this stuff? Or do you make it up as your brain cell wanders to and fro?

How did you miss the fact that Ashcroft cut the budget for terrorism, and lowered terrorism as a priority for the administration? I guess you forgot to read the 9-11 Report. Or Aschroft's Strategic Plan. Ashcroft thought domestic violent crime and drugs were more important than terrorism.


https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-con ... ICPLAN.PDF
"americanprogress.org"

Keep making an ass out of your stupid self, you gullible pos.
Your feeble attempt to discredit the facts by denigrating the source doesn't work when the link is to Ashcroft's documents.

And, of course, you ignored the 9-11 report.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/arch ... -04-13.htm

Is your brain cell spinning yet?
there he goes again, pulling a source out of his ass, then pointing at it from a distance. Copy and paste some text to backup your nonsense
I see you're still having difficulty following links and reading sources.
I see you're still an idiot.

Now paste text from that link you "found". that POS clintoon FAILED to defend us. NO one stopped him from bombing all those countries.
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No, we DON'T need to impeach Trump when you can't even post ONE letter of text from the "Mueller Report", you pathetic 0bama suck-up

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