Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States.... what a buffoon

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Re: Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States.... what a buffoon

Post by nolaxride » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 pm

chucky wrote:
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Friday on MSNBC, climate activist Bill Nye warned conservatives to “watch out,” saying progressive blue states will “address climate change” on their own.

Nye said, “Only 40 percent of people in the U.S. think that Congress should be addressing this and that’s because certain conservative groups, especially from the fossil fuel industry, have been very successful in introducing the idea that scientific uncertainty, plus or minus two percent, is the same as plus or minus 100 percent.”

He continued, “There’s a lot of emphasis from conservatives on what are writ-large states rights. Just watch out, conservatives, if states rights include California, Illinois, New York — these places that, where people voted in a progressive fashion — watch out if all those places start to address climate change and then impose economic sanctions, either overtly or by default, on places that have not embraced the work that needs to be done. Then you’ll end up with this states rights working the other way.”

He added, “We’ve got to remind people that we’re all in this together. The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies. We want to engage everybody. Not working to address climate change is in no one’s best interest. It is not in the best interest, especially of your children and grandchildren. A couple of times you mentioned that I am against the president and so on. I’m not especially against the president. I just think he’s gotten himself surrounded by people who are willing to mortgage the future, to let the people who are coming into the workforce now pay for the future. This is true, not just with regard to the national debt, which will almost certainly increase the same way it tripled under the beloved Ronald Reagan, not only will that national debt increase, but the climate debt, in a sense, what we have to do to address climate change, will be more and more difficult to pay back or pay down.”


Get this ahole out of my country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is pretty messed up thinking right there. The science guy doesn’t respect liberty much .
How so? Are you saying states don't have those rights?
Full faith in credit and interstate commerce are guaranteed by the Constitution. Countries impose sanctions not states. It is the opposite of states rights for one state to tell another what they can do within their borders, that’s the job of the federal government up to a point.
So you're saying CA can't establish it's own regulations for power imported into the state? The type of gasoline or diesel used in the state? Pollution standards for the cars sold within its borders? Those don't look like sanctions to me.

And when the world's 6th largest economy creates those kinds of regulations people pay attention.
Yeah they can do those kind of things . They can’t do it for cars and trucks registered in other states that drive through or are there temporarily . I am not sure how you regulate electricity that comes in. Sounds like those type of regulations will hurt California more than the states they are talking about. Nye needs to be more clear about what kind of “ economic sanctions “ he means.
True. You can't enforce smog regulations on cars registered in other states. That enforcement occurs when they want to register the car in the state. As far as power, yes they can. You'll notice that virtually all of the imported power is green power.

CA is a large enough market that in many cases, as CA goes, so goes the nation.
It would be easier and more profitable to sell the non green power to the contiguous red states and leave California on its own. I don’t know if California is going to lead this nation by example, but it could happen.
Consider that CA is already leading by example.
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Re: Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States.... what a buffoon

Post by chucky » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:42 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 pm
chucky wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:20 am
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:20 pm
chucky wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:03 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:55 pm
chucky wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:28 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:15 pm
chucky wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:58 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:26 pm
https://vote.us.org/memo/thread/48408/b ... g//?ref=fb

Friday on MSNBC, climate activist Bill Nye warned conservatives to “watch out,” saying progressive blue states will “address climate change” on their own.

Nye said, “Only 40 percent of people in the U.S. think that Congress should be addressing this and that’s because certain conservative groups, especially from the fossil fuel industry, have been very successful in introducing the idea that scientific uncertainty, plus or minus two percent, is the same as plus or minus 100 percent.”

He continued, “There’s a lot of emphasis from conservatives on what are writ-large states rights. Just watch out, conservatives, if states rights include California, Illinois, New York — these places that, where people voted in a progressive fashion — watch out if all those places start to address climate change and then impose economic sanctions, either overtly or by default, on places that have not embraced the work that needs to be done. Then you’ll end up with this states rights working the other way.”

He added, “We’ve got to remind people that we’re all in this together. The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies. We want to engage everybody. Not working to address climate change is in no one’s best interest. It is not in the best interest, especially of your children and grandchildren. A couple of times you mentioned that I am against the president and so on. I’m not especially against the president. I just think he’s gotten himself surrounded by people who are willing to mortgage the future, to let the people who are coming into the workforce now pay for the future. This is true, not just with regard to the national debt, which will almost certainly increase the same way it tripled under the beloved Ronald Reagan, not only will that national debt increase, but the climate debt, in a sense, what we have to do to address climate change, will be more and more difficult to pay back or pay down.”


Get this ahole out of my country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is pretty messed up thinking right there. The science guy doesn’t respect liberty much .
How so? Are you saying states don't have those rights?
Full faith in credit and interstate commerce are guaranteed by the Constitution. Countries impose sanctions not states. It is the opposite of states rights for one state to tell another what they can do within their borders, that’s the job of the federal government up to a point.
So you're saying CA can't establish it's own regulations for power imported into the state? The type of gasoline or diesel used in the state? Pollution standards for the cars sold within its borders? Those don't look like sanctions to me.

And when the world's 6th largest economy creates those kinds of regulations people pay attention.
Yeah they can do those kind of things . They can’t do it for cars and trucks registered in other states that drive through or are there temporarily . I am not sure how you regulate electricity that comes in. Sounds like those type of regulations will hurt California more than the states they are talking about. Nye needs to be more clear about what kind of “ economic sanctions “ he means.
True. You can't enforce smog regulations on cars registered in other states. That enforcement occurs when they want to register the car in the state. As far as power, yes they can. You'll notice that virtually all of the imported power is green power.

CA is a large enough market that in many cases, as CA goes, so goes the nation.
It would be easier and more profitable to sell the non green power to the contiguous red states and leave California on its own. I don’t know if California is going to lead this nation by example, but it could happen.
Consider that CA is already leading by example.
Will the other states follow ? Too soon to know.
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Re: Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States.... what a buffoon

Post by nolaxride » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:49 pm

chucky wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:42 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 pm
chucky wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:20 am
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:20 pm
chucky wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:03 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:55 pm
chucky wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:28 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:15 pm
chucky wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:58 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:26 pm
https://vote.us.org/memo/thread/48408/b ... g//?ref=fb

Friday on MSNBC, climate activist Bill Nye warned conservatives to “watch out,” saying progressive blue states will “address climate change” on their own.

Nye said, “Only 40 percent of people in the U.S. think that Congress should be addressing this and that’s because certain conservative groups, especially from the fossil fuel industry, have been very successful in introducing the idea that scientific uncertainty, plus or minus two percent, is the same as plus or minus 100 percent.”

He continued, “There’s a lot of emphasis from conservatives on what are writ-large states rights. Just watch out, conservatives, if states rights include California, Illinois, New York — these places that, where people voted in a progressive fashion — watch out if all those places start to address climate change and then impose economic sanctions, either overtly or by default, on places that have not embraced the work that needs to be done. Then you’ll end up with this states rights working the other way.”

He added, “We’ve got to remind people that we’re all in this together. The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies. We want to engage everybody. Not working to address climate change is in no one’s best interest. It is not in the best interest, especially of your children and grandchildren. A couple of times you mentioned that I am against the president and so on. I’m not especially against the president. I just think he’s gotten himself surrounded by people who are willing to mortgage the future, to let the people who are coming into the workforce now pay for the future. This is true, not just with regard to the national debt, which will almost certainly increase the same way it tripled under the beloved Ronald Reagan, not only will that national debt increase, but the climate debt, in a sense, what we have to do to address climate change, will be more and more difficult to pay back or pay down.”


Get this ahole out of my country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is pretty messed up thinking right there. The science guy doesn’t respect liberty much .
How so? Are you saying states don't have those rights?
Full faith in credit and interstate commerce are guaranteed by the Constitution. Countries impose sanctions not states. It is the opposite of states rights for one state to tell another what they can do within their borders, that’s the job of the federal government up to a point.
So you're saying CA can't establish it's own regulations for power imported into the state? The type of gasoline or diesel used in the state? Pollution standards for the cars sold within its borders? Those don't look like sanctions to me.

And when the world's 6th largest economy creates those kinds of regulations people pay attention.
Yeah they can do those kind of things . They can’t do it for cars and trucks registered in other states that drive through or are there temporarily . I am not sure how you regulate electricity that comes in. Sounds like those type of regulations will hurt California more than the states they are talking about. Nye needs to be more clear about what kind of “ economic sanctions “ he means.
True. You can't enforce smog regulations on cars registered in other states. That enforcement occurs when they want to register the car in the state. As far as power, yes they can. You'll notice that virtually all of the imported power is green power.

CA is a large enough market that in many cases, as CA goes, so goes the nation.
It would be easier and more profitable to sell the non green power to the contiguous red states and leave California on its own. I don’t know if California is going to lead this nation by example, but it could happen.
Consider that CA is already leading by example.
Will the other states follow ? Too soon to know.
They already are. For example, more than a dozen states have adopted CA clean air standards. CA plastic bottle standards are quickly becoming the US standard.
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Re: Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States.... what a buffoon

Post by chucky » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:55 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:49 pm
chucky wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:42 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 pm
chucky wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:20 am
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:20 pm
chucky wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:03 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:55 pm
chucky wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:28 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:15 pm
chucky wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:58 pm


That is pretty messed up thinking right there. The science guy doesn’t respect liberty much .
How so? Are you saying states don't have those rights?
Full faith in credit and interstate commerce are guaranteed by the Constitution. Countries impose sanctions not states. It is the opposite of states rights for one state to tell another what they can do within their borders, that’s the job of the federal government up to a point.
So you're saying CA can't establish it's own regulations for power imported into the state? The type of gasoline or diesel used in the state? Pollution standards for the cars sold within its borders? Those don't look like sanctions to me.

And when the world's 6th largest economy creates those kinds of regulations people pay attention.
Yeah they can do those kind of things . They can’t do it for cars and trucks registered in other states that drive through or are there temporarily . I am not sure how you regulate electricity that comes in. Sounds like those type of regulations will hurt California more than the states they are talking about. Nye needs to be more clear about what kind of “ economic sanctions “ he means.
True. You can't enforce smog regulations on cars registered in other states. That enforcement occurs when they want to register the car in the state. As far as power, yes they can. You'll notice that virtually all of the imported power is green power.

CA is a large enough market that in many cases, as CA goes, so goes the nation.
It would be easier and more profitable to sell the non green power to the contiguous red states and leave California on its own. I don’t know if California is going to lead this nation by example, but it could happen.
Consider that CA is already leading by example.
Will the other states follow ? Too soon to know.
They already are. For example, more than a dozen states have adopted CA clean air standards. CA plastic bottle standards are quickly becoming the US standard.
Those are good things IMO.m
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Re: Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States.... what a buffoon

Post by nolaxride » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:24 pm

It does make it easy to register your car in other states. Gave my mom an old '04 Buick Regal GS, 210k miles. Wisconsin testing facility was amazed at how clean it was.
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