Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by barrysoetoro » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:59 am

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-ap ... 00164.html

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Tesla's future as a mass-market car company hinges on efficient, automated production of the Model 3. Tesla will lose $6,000 for every $35,000 Model 3 it sells, says UBS analyst Colin Langan . It only breaks even if the car sells for over $41,000. Tesla has yet to produce the $35,000 base model of the Model 3.



aha....so, they aren't MAKING any of those. hmmm.....so how will Americans ever get to buy one?????


what a friggin' scam artist this guy is.

i'll cheer when they close up that shop.
Yup they aren’t making any of those . They make the 50k ones though. Not really affordable or worth the money. Wait till they get rid of the 7,500 tax credit.
Tax credit?? For buying a car??
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by KC_ » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:51 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:59 am
KC_ wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:23 pm
I am Z wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:38 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-ap ... 00164.html

excerpt:


Tesla's future as a mass-market car company hinges on efficient, automated production of the Model 3. Tesla will lose $6,000 for every $35,000 Model 3 it sells, says UBS analyst Colin Langan . It only breaks even if the car sells for over $41,000. Tesla has yet to produce the $35,000 base model of the Model 3.



aha....so, they aren't MAKING any of those. hmmm.....so how will Americans ever get to buy one?????


what a friggin' scam artist this guy is.

i'll cheer when they close up that shop.
Yup they aren’t making any of those . They make the 50k ones though. Not really affordable or worth the money. Wait till they get rid of the 7,500 tax credit.
Tax credit?? For buying a car??
Yup.
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by thelionofthenorth » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:27 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
No, I just want to know how this “$6000 on every $36k car” was arrived at.
Sure you do.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/ubs-rep ... del-3.html
Yeah, I read it. It doesn’t answer the question.

Apparently you think it does; which just shows that, once again, you don’t know scheiße about what you’re trying to talk about.
Oh sure. And you haven't answered why you disagree with it, and you're expecting everyone here to take you serious?

you know what, you might as well just say stupid crap that your buddy nobrain says. Like, you just don't understand numbers, or you just don't understand facts.
I don’t disagree with it, liar. I don’t agree with it. I want to know how their analysis was carried out and how they reached their conclusion.
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by nolaxride » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:36 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
A sham does not produce 5,000 Model S in a week. They are not only producing them, but they are also selling them. Where's the sham?
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by nolaxride » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:47 pm

thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:27 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
No, I just want to know how this “$6000 on every $36k car” was arrived at.
Sure you do.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/ubs-rep ... del-3.html
Yeah, I read it. It doesn’t answer the question.

Apparently you think it does; which just shows that, once again, you don’t know scheiße about what you’re trying to talk about.
Oh sure. And you haven't answered why you disagree with it, and you're expecting everyone here to take you serious?

you know what, you might as well just say stupid crap that your buddy nobrain says. Like, you just don't understand numbers, or you just don't understand facts.
I don’t disagree with it, liar. I don’t agree with it. I want to know how their analysis was carried out and how they reached their conclusion.
Click through to the link that in the story. UBS hired a team of automotive engineers to disassemble three all-electric vehicles; a new Tesla Model 3, a 2014 BMW i3 and a 2017 Chevy Bolt.

While the engineers don't 'think' it can be produced for 35k, it's also worth noting that Tesla hasn't produced or sold any in that price range, making the argument that they would lose 6k per vehicle moot. The fact is, according to UBS, they expect at the price of 49k Tesla has an 18 percent margin.

More impressive is the quality. The team examined a $49,000 2018 Model 3 and were "crazy" about the powertrain, "highlighting next-gen, military-grade tech that's years ahead of peers".

"Tesla beat its two competitors in cost, but the Model 3 didn't have as big a lead over the other automakers as UBS had expected. However, some of the Model 3's technology seemed to be far ahead of that found on the Chevrolet and BMW. In particular, Tesla's electric powertrain stood out as exceptionally simple and flexible."

Curious how the focus is on what might happen and not what is happening.
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by thelionofthenorth » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:31 pm

Engineers carrying out a financial analysis.

Why not just hire EEs to perform heart surgery?
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by barrysoetoro » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:12 pm

thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:27 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
No, I just want to know how this “$6000 on every $36k car” was arrived at.
Sure you do.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/ubs-rep ... del-3.html
Yeah, I read it. It doesn’t answer the question.

Apparently you think it does; which just shows that, once again, you don’t know scheiße about what you’re trying to talk about.
Oh sure. And you haven't answered why you disagree with it, and you're expecting everyone here to take you serious?

you know what, you might as well just say stupid crap that your buddy nobrain says. Like, you just don't understand numbers, or you just don't understand facts.
I don’t disagree with it, liar. I don’t agree with it. I want to know how their analysis was carried out and how they reached their conclusion.
So you want a spreadsheet so you can split hairs? Or, you just don't believe what you read?
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by barrysoetoro » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:13 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:47 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:27 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
No, I just want to know how this “$6000 on every $36k car” was arrived at.
Sure you do.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/ubs-rep ... del-3.html
Yeah, I read it. It doesn’t answer the question.

Apparently you think it does; which just shows that, once again, you don’t know scheiße about what you’re trying to talk about.
Oh sure. And you haven't answered why you disagree with it, and you're expecting everyone here to take you serious?

you know what, you might as well just say stupid crap that your buddy nobrain says. Like, you just don't understand numbers, or you just don't understand facts.
I don’t disagree with it, liar. I don’t agree with it. I want to know how their analysis was carried out and how they reached their conclusion.
Click through to the link that in the story. UBS hired a team of automotive engineers to disassemble three all-electric vehicles; a new Tesla Model 3, a 2014 BMW i3 and a 2017 Chevy Bolt.

While the engineers don't 'think' it can be produced for 35k, it's also worth noting that Tesla hasn't produced or sold any in that price range, making the argument that they would lose 6k per vehicle moot. The fact is, according to UBS, they expect at the price of 49k Tesla has an 18 percent margin.

More impressive is the quality. The team examined a $49,000 2018 Model 3 and were "crazy" about the powertrain, "highlighting next-gen, military-grade tech that's years ahead of peers".

"Tesla beat its two competitors in cost, but the Model 3 didn't have as big a lead over the other automakers as UBS had expected. However, some of the Model 3's technology seemed to be far ahead of that found on the Chevrolet and BMW. In particular, Tesla's electric powertrain stood out as exceptionally simple and flexible."

Curious how the focus is on what might happen and not what is happening.
Because it's not happening yet. Geez.
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by nolaxride » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:26 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:13 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:47 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:27 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
No, I just want to know how this “$6000 on every $36k car” was arrived at.
Sure you do.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/ubs-rep ... del-3.html
Yeah, I read it. It doesn’t answer the question.

Apparently you think it does; which just shows that, once again, you don’t know scheiße about what you’re trying to talk about.
Oh sure. And you haven't answered why you disagree with it, and you're expecting everyone here to take you serious?

you know what, you might as well just say stupid crap that your buddy nobrain says. Like, you just don't understand numbers, or you just don't understand facts.
I don’t disagree with it, liar. I don’t agree with it. I want to know how their analysis was carried out and how they reached their conclusion.
Click through to the link that in the story. UBS hired a team of automotive engineers to disassemble three all-electric vehicles; a new Tesla Model 3, a 2014 BMW i3 and a 2017 Chevy Bolt.

While the engineers don't 'think' it can be produced for 35k, it's also worth noting that Tesla hasn't produced or sold any in that price range, making the argument that they would lose 6k per vehicle moot. The fact is, according to UBS, they expect at the price of 49k Tesla has an 18 percent margin.

More impressive is the quality. The team examined a $49,000 2018 Model 3 and were "crazy" about the powertrain, "highlighting next-gen, military-grade tech that's years ahead of peers".

"Tesla beat its two competitors in cost, but the Model 3 didn't have as big a lead over the other automakers as UBS had expected. However, some of the Model 3's technology seemed to be far ahead of that found on the Chevrolet and BMW. In particular, Tesla's electric powertrain stood out as exceptionally simple and flexible."

Curious how the focus is on what might happen and not what is happening.
Because it's not happening yet. Geez.
Exactly. You finally got one right.
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Re: Tesla loses $6,000 on every $35k Tesl Model 3 it sells

Post by nolaxride » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:28 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:12 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:58 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:41 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:27 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:43 pm
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Not a word about how UBS performed their analysis.
Of course liberals like this guy will never be convinced that Tesla is a sham.
No, I just want to know how this “$6000 on every $36k car” was arrived at.
Sure you do.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/ubs-rep ... del-3.html
Yeah, I read it. It doesn’t answer the question.

Apparently you think it does; which just shows that, once again, you don’t know scheiße about what you’re trying to talk about.
Oh sure. And you haven't answered why you disagree with it, and you're expecting everyone here to take you serious?

you know what, you might as well just say stupid crap that your buddy nobrain says. Like, you just don't understand numbers, or you just don't understand facts.
I don’t disagree with it, liar. I don’t agree with it. I want to know how their analysis was carried out and how they reached their conclusion.
So you want a spreadsheet so you can split hairs? Or, you just don't believe what you read?
What I read, specifically the subject, is a lie. Tesla is not selling the 35k car so they are not losing money. Further, the CNBC article was based on an estimate. It's not a hard and fast number.
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