Here Is What Happens When Our Military Is Forced to Put Politics Before Defense

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Re: Here Is What Happens When Our Military Is Forced to Put Politics Before Defense

Post by psk836 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:39 pm

Falstaff2 wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:36 pm
BTW, all these problems on the Donald's watch are all his. He assured US that he would hit the Oval Office hard and fast to MAGA and you Tea Baggers have assured the rest of US that he's a man of his word. The current Commander in Chief owns it all.
Then have your judges drop the rear guard action and allow Trump to run the military as Commander in Chief. You know, the job the voters gave him.
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Post by barrysoetoro » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:40 pm

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nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:30 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
It's unfortunate that you don't have anything besides your opinion. Maybe you missed the fact that the president wants to close bases.
HEY loser -president Trump is untying the hands of our military and they're winning. Obama tied their hands with his stupid crap, remember having to read the enemy their rights and put them on trial???
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Post by barrysoetoro » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:42 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:24 pm
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Which is basically what happened over the last eight years.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/12/u ... ships.html
Interesting article. I don't see where it says anything about politics having anything to do with the fact that the Navy has neglected it's training duties.
They were too busy giving everyone sensitivity training from the great Obama. you know how the Navy supposed to love gays be nice to gays.

Notice how no brain, like all liberals, blame the military first? And idiots like brokeback boy call our veterans Liars. You liberals don't and have never supported our military. That's the only part of the government you liberals don't love.
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Post by barrysoetoro » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:44 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:29 pm
psk836 wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:22 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
Democrats typically gut the military budget because they do not view external military threats to be the greatest threat to their power. They consider domestic politicians (and now non-politicians) to be that greatest threat.
Curious. Do you have examples? Maybe Vietnam? Or the GOP Base Realignment and Closure bill? Or the current president who says he wants to rebuild the military but is actually closing bases?
Jimmy Carter did it, you moron. So did Bill Clinton! And while we were being attacked! The military had a terrible time during the Obama years. Then again, liberals like you don't understand the military, in fact, you loathe it.
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Post by nolaxride » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:14 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
Who did Obama apologize too?
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Post by barrysoetoro » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:26 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
Who did Obama apologize too?


that piece of f#cking sh#t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Screw ALL you 0bama supporters!!!!!!!!!
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Post by nolaxride » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:28 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:44 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:29 pm
psk836 wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:22 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
Democrats typically gut the military budget because they do not view external military threats to be the greatest threat to their power. They consider domestic politicians (and now non-politicians) to be that greatest threat.
Curious. Do you have examples? Maybe Vietnam? Or the GOP Base Realignment and Closure bill? Or the current president who says he wants to rebuild the military but is actually closing bases?
Jimmy Carter did it, you moron. So did Bill Clinton! And while we were being attacked! The military had a terrible time during the Obama years. Then again, liberals like you don't understand the military, in fact, you loathe it.
I asked for examples and you give me your opinions, again. Tell me what Carter did to the military budget. Or Clinton. Or Obama.

And I noticed you're not speaking to the president closing military bases. Why? Is it okay for the president to deplete the military?
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Post by nolaxride » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:28 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:26 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:14 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
Who did Obama apologize too?

that piece of f#cking sh#t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Screw ALL you 0bama supporters!!!!!!!!!
You didn't answer the question. To WHOM did Obama apologize.
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Post by nolaxride » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:35 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:40 pm
:yawn:
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:30 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:59 pm
That's what happens with a Democrat president, they always tie our military's hands. President Trump untied them and now they can actually do their job. Which isn't apologizing to the enemy anymore, like Obama wanted.
It's unfortunate that you don't have anything besides your opinion. Maybe you missed the fact that the president wants to close bases.
HEY loser -president Trump is untying the hands of our military and they're winning. Obama tied their hands with his stupid crap, remember having to read the enemy their rights and put them on trial???
Curious how you always change the subject when you run out of talking points.
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Post by Falstaff2 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:23 pm

Americans are too full of themselves to ever investigate and consider the history that predisposed US to the situations we now face at home and abroad. Iran was ruled by the Shaw who was installed by the west to regain control of the oil. Forty years of festering hostilities among the fundamentalist Muslims opposing the Shaw resulted in the current convoluted conflict there and Tea Baggers want to fix the problem with more American boots on the ground. The entire Mideast is a smoldering pit of religious/political grievances made into a plethora of civil wars due to borders written by NATO powers with no consideration for the Sunni-Shiite situation. But then look how long the IRA vs UK guerilla war went on.

If the politics of a situation is settled early the military won't need to become involved.
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