Health Saving Accounts - The Tiniest Change Could Completely Fix Health Care

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Re: Health Saving Accounts - The Tiniest Change Could Completely Fix Health Care

Post by evilconempire » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:08 pm

chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:04 pm
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:02 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:48 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:44 am
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:42 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:39 am
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:31 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.
A healthcare system cannot be based on one person or a small group of people. The interests of all citizens must be balanced.
82 million is neither one person nor a small group. It's beneficial to all citizens to have a healthier populace.
That wasn't the point. Cost is a factor that must be considered.
It was my point. Of course it is a factor, but it's only one of many factors to consider, eg. ROI.
In passing a unified healthcare plan cost is the most important factor.
For me, the most important factor is not sentencing people to death because they can't afford life-saving treatment. Cost is a manageable factor.
It isn't if you give free unlimited care to everyone.
You can always manage costs.
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Post by chucky » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:26 pm

evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:08 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:04 pm
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:02 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:48 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:44 am
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:42 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:39 am
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:31 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.
A healthcare system cannot be based on one person or a small group of people. The interests of all citizens must be balanced.
82 million is neither one person nor a small group. It's beneficial to all citizens to have a healthier populace.
That wasn't the point. Cost is a factor that must be considered.
It was my point. Of course it is a factor, but it's only one of many factors to consider, eg. ROI.
In passing a unified healthcare plan cost is the most important factor.
For me, the most important factor is not sentencing people to death because they can't afford life-saving treatment. Cost is a manageable factor.
It isn't if you give free unlimited care to everyone.
You can always manage costs.
If that were true they would have fixed the healthcare system decades ago. Managing costs is something government is bad at. We will see what happens.
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Post by evilconempire » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:40 pm

chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:26 pm
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:08 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:04 pm
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:02 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:48 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:44 am
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:42 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:39 am
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:31 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.
A healthcare system cannot be based on one person or a small group of people. The interests of all citizens must be balanced.
82 million is neither one person nor a small group. It's beneficial to all citizens to have a healthier populace.
That wasn't the point. Cost is a factor that must be considered.
It was my point. Of course it is a factor, but it's only one of many factors to consider, eg. ROI.
In passing a unified healthcare plan cost is the most important factor.
For me, the most important factor is not sentencing people to death because they can't afford life-saving treatment. Cost is a manageable factor.
It isn't if you give free unlimited care to everyone.
You can always manage costs.
If that were true they would have fixed the healthcare system decades ago. Managing costs is something government is bad at. We will see what happens.
They have been managing costs every since its inception. Our gov't, but other gov'ts have done so successfully. Yes, we will see.
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Post by nolaxride » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:07 pm

chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:31 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.
A healthcare system cannot be based on one person or a small group of people. The interests of all citizens must be balanced.
Really? Are you seriously suggesting the GOP is standing for what's best for the common good? What happened to American exceptionalism? The idea that the individual is king?
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Post by chucky » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:19 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:07 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:31 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.
A healthcare system cannot be based on one person or a small group of people. The interests of all citizens must be balanced.
Really? Are you seriously suggesting the GOP is standing for what's best for the common good? What happened to American exceptionalism? The idea that the individual is king?
No I never suggested that. Where did you get that idea ?
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Post by nolaxride » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:52 am

chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:19 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:07 pm
chucky wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:31 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.
A healthcare system cannot be based on one person or a small group of people. The interests of all citizens must be balanced.
Really? Are you seriously suggesting the GOP is standing for what's best for the common good? What happened to American exceptionalism? The idea that the individual is king?
No I never suggested that. Where did you get that idea ?
Good question...
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Post by Pete » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:44 am

evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.

HSA's are typically paired with catastrophic health policies. In your case the catastrophic policy would kick in to cover the hundreds of thousands.

It's a match made in heaven
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Post by evilconempire » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:58 am

Pete wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:44 am
evilconempire wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:53 am
The only thing preventing me from affording the hundreds of thousands it takes to treat my cancer each time it returns is saving a few percent in taxes on the money I put into my health savings account.

HSA's are typically paired with catastrophic health policies. In your case the catastrophic policy would kick in to cover the hundreds of thousands.

It's a match made in heaven
They are being paired with all kinds of plans but when you can't get coverage because of a preexisting condition it's no match at all
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Post by Falstaff2 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:59 pm

The majority of Americans have no savings. They live pay check to pay check. HSAs is a death sentence for more than 50% of the country. But the Alt-Reight is OK with that.
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Post by Pete » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:23 am

The HSA has never been portrayed as the end-all be-all for all people. Its simply another great option for responsible people who like to plan ahead
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