Wiretapping expands under President Clinton, besides his apologists rhetoric...

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Re: Wiretapping expands under President Clinton, besides his apologists rhetoric...

Post by nolaxride » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:57 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:00 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:28 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
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Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:53 pm
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You just can't help stepping in it... Those are all wiretaps that are approved by a regular court. There were no secret FISA courts back then.

You do know what a FISA court is, right?
I said wiretapping EXPANDED under Clintoon, which you denied. Clintoon handed EVERY attack over to law enforcement, so what does that matter??

And boots on the ground and kicking in doors is the answer - not "listening in".
You don't seem to understand the difference between a regular wiretap and a FISA court wiretap. Then again, you do struggle with concepts and numbers.

And yes, terrorism was turned over to law enforcement. That's how things were handled until 9-11. Did you flunk history? Maybe you were napping?
WTF would Clinton have done if he got all that???

Well????

Tell us. He diddled for 8 years!!!! You definitely were napping those years.
Had he gotten the FISA courts he could have started tracking incoming foreign calls. Had he gotten the banking rules he could have prevented the financing they needed. Had the GOP been interested in fighting terrorism 9-11 would not have occurred.
HE COULD HAVE HE COULD HAVE HE COULD HAVE.... HE COULD HAVE DONE THIS, THAT THE OTHER THING....

WHY DIDNT' HE FIGHT THEM INSTEAD OF HAND IT OVER TO THE FBI YOU DUMBASS??????????? WHY DID HE LET BIN LADEN ESCAPE MULTIPLE TIMES IF HE WAS SO CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND NOT WORRIED ABOUT PIZZING OFF SOME SAUDI PRINCE????

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GOP WASN'T INTERESTED???? WAS CLINTOON INTERESTED???? NO!!!!!

SO THE USS COLE BOMBING WAS THE GOP FAULT. AND THE 1998 EMBASSY BOMBINGS, THE KHOBAR TOWERS, WERE ALL THE GOP FAULT AND NOT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF BUBBA THE DRAFT DODGER!!!

YOU ARE A DUMB F#CK!!!

now show me a link on the 9/11 commission report where if clintoon (the appeaser) got all that 9/11 would have been stopped???
You're right... it's all COULD HAVE because the GOP didn't give him the tools to fight terrorism. Where was the actionable intel on the Cole bombing? Where was the actionable intel on Khobar Towers? Where was the GOP support for boots on the ground. You seem to forget that the GOP didn't believe terrorism was an issue, to the point that they mocked the idea of a threat.

And finally, why don't you read the 9-11 commission report and tell me where it says Clinton could have stopped 9-11. Then compare what Clinton did to fight terrorism with what Reagan did after Beirut... who cut and ran?
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Post by barrysoetoro » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:51 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:57 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:00 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:28 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:42 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:53 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:54 pm
You just can't help stepping in it... Those are all wiretaps that are approved by a regular court. There were no secret FISA courts back then.

You do know what a FISA court is, right?
I said wiretapping EXPANDED under Clintoon, which you denied. Clintoon handed EVERY attack over to law enforcement, so what does that matter??

And boots on the ground and kicking in doors is the answer - not "listening in".
You don't seem to understand the difference between a regular wiretap and a FISA court wiretap. Then again, you do struggle with concepts and numbers.

And yes, terrorism was turned over to law enforcement. That's how things were handled until 9-11. Did you flunk history? Maybe you were napping?
WTF would Clinton have done if he got all that???

Well????

Tell us. He diddled for 8 years!!!! You definitely were napping those years.
Had he gotten the FISA courts he could have started tracking incoming foreign calls. Had he gotten the banking rules he could have prevented the financing they needed. Had the GOP been interested in fighting terrorism 9-11 would not have occurred.
HE COULD HAVE HE COULD HAVE HE COULD HAVE.... HE COULD HAVE DONE THIS, THAT THE OTHER THING....

WHY DIDNT' HE FIGHT THEM INSTEAD OF HAND IT OVER TO THE FBI YOU DUMBASS??????????? WHY DID HE LET BIN LADEN ESCAPE MULTIPLE TIMES IF HE WAS SO CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND NOT WORRIED ABOUT PIZZING OFF SOME SAUDI PRINCE????

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GOP WASN'T INTERESTED???? WAS CLINTOON INTERESTED???? NO!!!!!

SO THE USS COLE BOMBING WAS THE GOP FAULT. AND THE 1998 EMBASSY BOMBINGS, THE KHOBAR TOWERS, WERE ALL THE GOP FAULT AND NOT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF BUBBA THE DRAFT DODGER!!!

YOU ARE A DUMB F#CK!!!

now show me a link on the 9/11 commission report where if clintoon (the appeaser) got all that 9/11 would have been stopped???
You're right... it's all COULD HAVE because the GOP didn't give him the tools to fight terrorism. Where was the actionable intel on the Cole bombing? Where was the actionable intel on Khobar Towers? Where was the GOP support for boots on the ground. You seem to forget that the GOP didn't believe terrorism was an issue, to the point that they mocked the idea of a threat.

And finally, why don't you read the 9-11 commission report and tell me where it says Clinton could have stopped 9-11. Then compare what Clinton did to fight terrorism with what Reagan did after Beirut... who cut and ran?
Clinton wouldn't have done jack sh#t, because he didn't do jack sh#t!!!!! Now here you are re-writing history that he wasn't a sociopath coward. Now answer me what Clinton WOULD have done based on his track record!!!!

Clinton had all the tools to fight them, you dork!!!! He was firing cruise missiles that didn't die into a sovereign terrorist state!!!!!! He had the CIA in Afghanistan, that' didn't stop him!!!!

He handed ALL of his attacks over to the FBI, do you need to have your neck rang and repeated 100 times until you get it?????? Once more time you stupid idiot: HE HANDED ALL HIS ATTACKS OVER TO THE FBI!!!!! Didn't fight, didn't care!!!!!

Actionable intel???? Didn't clinton arrest all the terrorists responsible for those attacks???? Did he fight back???

NO!!!!

President Reagan???? WTF does that have to do with this? ah.... So you admit that pos Clinton cut'n ran - like he did from his Somalia blunder.

And Reagan bombed Libya and Gaddafi stopped his attacks on the spot, more than Clintoon would have done!!!! Would that coward Carter have done that???
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Post by nolaxride » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:21 pm

barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:51 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:57 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:00 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:28 am
barrysoetoro wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:42 pm
barrysoetoro wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:53 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:54 pm
You just can't help stepping in it... Those are all wiretaps that are approved by a regular court. There were no secret FISA courts back then.

You do know what a FISA court is, right?
I said wiretapping EXPANDED under Clintoon, which you denied. Clintoon handed EVERY attack over to law enforcement, so what does that matter??

And boots on the ground and kicking in doors is the answer - not "listening in".
You don't seem to understand the difference between a regular wiretap and a FISA court wiretap. Then again, you do struggle with concepts and numbers.

And yes, terrorism was turned over to law enforcement. That's how things were handled until 9-11. Did you flunk history? Maybe you were napping?
WTF would Clinton have done if he got all that???

Well????

Tell us. He diddled for 8 years!!!! You definitely were napping those years.
Had he gotten the FISA courts he could have started tracking incoming foreign calls. Had he gotten the banking rules he could have prevented the financing they needed. Had the GOP been interested in fighting terrorism 9-11 would not have occurred.
HE COULD HAVE HE COULD HAVE HE COULD HAVE.... HE COULD HAVE DONE THIS, THAT THE OTHER THING....

WHY DIDNT' HE FIGHT THEM INSTEAD OF HAND IT OVER TO THE FBI YOU DUMBASS??????????? WHY DID HE LET BIN LADEN ESCAPE MULTIPLE TIMES IF HE WAS SO CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND NOT WORRIED ABOUT PIZZING OFF SOME SAUDI PRINCE????

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GOP WASN'T INTERESTED???? WAS CLINTOON INTERESTED???? NO!!!!!

SO THE USS COLE BOMBING WAS THE GOP FAULT. AND THE 1998 EMBASSY BOMBINGS, THE KHOBAR TOWERS, WERE ALL THE GOP FAULT AND NOT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF BUBBA THE DRAFT DODGER!!!

YOU ARE A DUMB F#CK!!!

now show me a link on the 9/11 commission report where if clintoon (the appeaser) got all that 9/11 would have been stopped???
You're right... it's all COULD HAVE because the GOP didn't give him the tools to fight terrorism. Where was the actionable intel on the Cole bombing? Where was the actionable intel on Khobar Towers? Where was the GOP support for boots on the ground. You seem to forget that the GOP didn't believe terrorism was an issue, to the point that they mocked the idea of a threat.

And finally, why don't you read the 9-11 commission report and tell me where it says Clinton could have stopped 9-11. Then compare what Clinton did to fight terrorism with what Reagan did after Beirut... who cut and ran?
Clinton wouldn't have done jack sh#t, because he didn't do jack sh#t!!!!! Now here you are re-writing history that he wasn't a sociopath coward. Now answer me what Clinton WOULD have done based on his track record!!!!

Clinton had all the tools to fight them, you dork!!!! He was firing cruise missiles that didn't die into a sovereign terrorist state!!!!!! He had the CIA in Afghanistan, that' didn't stop him!!!!

He handed ALL of his attacks over to the FBI, do you need to have your neck rang and repeated 100 times until you get it?????? Once more time you stupid idiot: HE HANDED ALL HIS ATTACKS OVER TO THE FBI!!!!! Didn't fight, didn't care!!!!!

Actionable intel???? Didn't clinton arrest all the terrorists responsible for those attacks???? Did he fight back???

NO!!!!

President Reagan???? WTF does that have to do with this? ah.... So you admit that pos Clinton cut'n ran - like he did from his Somalia blunder.

And Reagan bombed Libya and Gaddafi stopped his attacks on the spot, more than Clintoon would have done!!!! Would that coward Carter have done that???
Your responses are being to resemble a 3rd grader's meltdown. We don't know what Clinton would have done because he was never afforded the opportunity. The GOP was more interested in Monica than they were in terrorism. They were warned about terrorism and they spent 100 million on Monica instead. That's not rewriting history, that's reciting the facts.

So, tell me what 'tools' Clinton had.

And yes, he handed all of the terrorist activities over to the FBI. That's what this country did until 9-11.

Reagan didn't bomb anyone after his cut and run in Beirut.... Reagan's bombing Lybia was the result of the German nightclub bombing. And what does Reagan have to do with it? Just another example of how the GOP cuts and runs. Where did Reagan put boots on the ground? Oh, yeah.. Beiruit. And then he pulled all of them after the bombing. Clinton bombed our enemies. Sudan and Iraq. Curious how you forgot that.
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