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TRUMP IS REVIVING THE COAL INDUSTRY OBAMA TRIED TO KILL

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Re: TRUMP IS REVIVING THE COAL INDUSTRY OBAMA TRIED TO KILL

Post by barrysoetoro » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:24 am

thelionofthenorth wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:30 pm
So, the Moonie Times spins out a spin piece which makes assertions and conclusions which are false to fact, antilib falls for their line of bull and channels it, then gets his fail rammed up his ass by undeniable true facts.

Who coulda seen that coming?
So, ly'in of the dork makes ASSertions which he failed to back up, only with "hey nobrain posted some links; therefore, he won the debate".

Tell us what your opinion is other than, "read the article" from your bubble.

In ly'ins' bubble: there is no truth other than a link posted by a t/-\rd; any disagreeing will not be tolerated
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Post by Tejanochimbo » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:52 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:20 am
Tejanochimbo wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:34 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:34 pm
Really?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/weekly/
yup!!

Coal Industry Sheds Tens Of Thousands Of Jobs Under Obama
02/06/2015

Tens of thousands of coal mine and power plant workers have lost their jobs under President Obama, and more layoffs could be on the way as the administration continues to pile on tens of billions of dollars in regulatory costs.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/coal- ... der-obama/
Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.



:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
► Jesus, Massey Energy had a ball blowing off mountain tops in WV under Obama, and fracking success made coal less competitive

You aint learning nothing from reading them white wing rags except how to suck up to white wingers

What are you learning, and what brown wing rags from left wingers?

Says the same pos who supports a terrorist organization that would blow it's head off.
► You mean Hamas

I support Hamas, and oppose the occupation of Palestine

Why dont you oppose the Occupation?
✡ Israel is a pain in the åss

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Post by nolaxride » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:17 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:18 am
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:34 pm
Really?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/weekly/
yup!!

Coal Industry Sheds Tens Of Thousands Of Jobs Under Obama
02/06/2015

Tens of thousands of coal mine and power plant workers have lost their jobs under President Obama, and more layoffs could be on the way as the administration continues to pile on tens of billions of dollars in regulatory costs.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/coal- ... der-obama/
Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.

Um, um, hellooo? Professor nobrain? Me here, in back. Question. how can the coal industry grow if it's over regulated?
Great question. Let's look at the decline of the coal industry. First, what do you consider over regulation? Telling them they can't destroy pristine trout streams? Ensuring that they replant an area after they're done digging? They can't destroy ground water? Ignore safety regulations? Which regulations? So, which regulations are 'over' regulating?

I'd suggest that it wasn't regulation that caused the downfall of coal, but the abundance of natural gas. I think we'd both area that power industry is price sensitive. When it costs the power industry less to use NG, that's what they're going to use, and that's what they did. NG is cleaner (not just emissions, but maintenance), it's produces more power per BTU (coal can't do combined cycle), and it's scalable (it can be used for both baseline and peaker production). AND, when they replace an old coal plant, they can, very profitably, sell those emissions on the carbon market.

That's what killed the coal industry. Just like the Pentium chip killed the 2/3/486 chips and the Xeon chip will do the same with predessor chip...

And the coal industry isn't going to die. There are many modern coal plants that require coal, can't make steal without coal, and exports, will keep the coal industry alive. Beside reduced demand, technology is killing coal. Robots have entered the mine and that's the real job killer.
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Post by nolaxride » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am

antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:34 pm
Really?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/weekly/
yup!!

Coal Industry Sheds Tens Of Thousands Of Jobs Under Obama
02/06/2015

Tens of thousands of coal mine and power plant workers have lost their jobs under President Obama, and more layoffs could be on the way as the administration continues to pile on tens of billions of dollars in regulatory costs.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/coal- ... der-obama/
Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
Are you uncomfortable when you see your beloved moonies proved wrong? I present the facts. The source twisted the facts. Misrepresented where the jobs had been created. They lied. They intentionally lied. How you dont' see that as decimating their argument is beyond me. OR, maybe they should do their homework and PROVE COAL MINING jobs are back. Using the entirety of 'mining' is bogus and you know it. Coal mining employment is not EVER going to return to where it was. NEVER.

Now, tell me... how many liberals do you know who are fiscal conservatives? Or, even better. When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? Why don't you start a thread on that... and we'll let the board be the judge.
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Post by nolaxride » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:26 am

barrysoetoro wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:24 am
thelionofthenorth wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:30 pm
So, the Moonie Times spins out a spin piece which makes assertions and conclusions which are false to fact, antilib falls for their line of bull and channels it, then gets his fail rammed up his ass by undeniable true facts.

Who coulda seen that coming?
So, ly'in of the dork makes ASSertions which he failed to back up, only with "hey nobrain posted some links; therefore, he won the debate".

Tell us what your opinion is other than, "read the article" from your bubble.

In ly'ins' bubble: there is no truth other than a link posted by a t/-\rd; any disagreeing will not be tolerated
I would think your 'common sense' would understand that robotics is putting miners out of work.
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Post by antilib » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 am

nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:34 pm
Really?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/weekly/
yup!!

Coal Industry Sheds Tens Of Thousands Of Jobs Under Obama
02/06/2015

Tens of thousands of coal mine and power plant workers have lost their jobs under President Obama, and more layoffs could be on the way as the administration continues to pile on tens of billions of dollars in regulatory costs.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/coal- ... der-obama/
Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
Are you uncomfortable when you see your beloved moonies proved wrong? I present the facts. The source twisted the facts. Misrepresented where the jobs had been created. They lied. They intentionally lied. How you dont' see that as decimating their argument is beyond me. OR, maybe they should do their homework and PROVE COAL MINING jobs are back. Using the entirety of 'mining' is bogus and you know it. Coal mining employment is not EVER going to return to where it was. NEVER.

Now, tell me... how many liberals do you know who are fiscal conservatives? Or, even better. When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? Why don't you start a thread on that... and we'll let the board be the judge.
>When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? <

i did that a short time after aibafs was first created, you asserted you were a "moderate" even though you consistently attack conservative thought and support liberal crap, now if you want to start a little "let's have the other members vote on what nolax's political beliefs are," there's no doubt in my mind that it will be pointed out you're a liberal, now, since you're so adamant about it, why don't you start the thread on yourself to keep any other poster from violating the callout thread rule, okey-dokey?

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Post by nolaxride » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:52 pm

antilib wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:34 pm
Really?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/weekly/
yup!!

Coal Industry Sheds Tens Of Thousands Of Jobs Under Obama
02/06/2015

Tens of thousands of coal mine and power plant workers have lost their jobs under President Obama, and more layoffs could be on the way as the administration continues to pile on tens of billions of dollars in regulatory costs.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/coal- ... der-obama/
Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
Are you uncomfortable when you see your beloved moonies proved wrong? I present the facts. The source twisted the facts. Misrepresented where the jobs had been created. They lied. They intentionally lied. How you dont' see that as decimating their argument is beyond me. OR, maybe they should do their homework and PROVE COAL MINING jobs are back. Using the entirety of 'mining' is bogus and you know it. Coal mining employment is not EVER going to return to where it was. NEVER.

Now, tell me... how many liberals do you know who are fiscal conservatives? Or, even better. When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? Why don't you start a thread on that... and we'll let the board be the judge.
>When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? <

i did that a short time after aibafs was first created, you asserted you were a "moderate" even though you consistently attack conservative thought and support liberal crap, now if you want to start a little "let's have the other members vote on what nolax's political beliefs are," there's no doubt in my mind that it will be pointed out you're a liberal, now, since you're so adamant about it, why don't you start the thread on yourself to keep any other poster from violating the callout thread rule, okey-dokey?
That's right. I'm a moderate. I hardly think pointing out logical fallacies or errors of facts constitute an attack. If that's the case, everything I learned in my debate classes was in error. It appears that you think in black and white. And the world is full of gray. Full of nuance.

Not that you've noticed.
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Post by antilib » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:26 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:52 pm
antilib wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm


yup!!

Coal Industry Sheds Tens Of Thousands Of Jobs Under Obama
02/06/2015

Tens of thousands of coal mine and power plant workers have lost their jobs under President Obama, and more layoffs could be on the way as the administration continues to pile on tens of billions of dollars in regulatory costs.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/06/coal- ... der-obama/
Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
Are you uncomfortable when you see your beloved moonies proved wrong? I present the facts. The source twisted the facts. Misrepresented where the jobs had been created. They lied. They intentionally lied. How you dont' see that as decimating their argument is beyond me. OR, maybe they should do their homework and PROVE COAL MINING jobs are back. Using the entirety of 'mining' is bogus and you know it. Coal mining employment is not EVER going to return to where it was. NEVER.

Now, tell me... how many liberals do you know who are fiscal conservatives? Or, even better. When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? Why don't you start a thread on that... and we'll let the board be the judge.
>When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? <

i did that a short time after aibafs was first created, you asserted you were a "moderate" even though you consistently attack conservative thought and support liberal crap, now if you want to start a little "let's have the other members vote on what nolax's political beliefs are," there's no doubt in my mind that it will be pointed out you're a liberal, now, since you're so adamant about it, why don't you start the thread on yourself to keep any other poster from violating the callout thread rule, okey-dokey?
That's right. I'm a moderate. I hardly think pointing out logical fallacies or errors of facts constitute an attack. If that's the case, everything I learned in my debate classes was in error. It appears that you think in black and white. And the world is full of gray. Full of nuance.

Not that you've noticed.
you have no right to say anyone has no balls, first you challenge me to start a thread about you which is a rule violation, then when i point out you start it about yourself you chicken out, also, you're not a moderate, you're a liberal, quit denying it, no ones buying, lol!!

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Post by nolaxride » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:41 pm

antilib wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:26 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:52 pm
antilib wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:20 pm


Mining jobs may be coming back, coal mining jobs are not. Or perhaps you missed that point?
Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
Are you uncomfortable when you see your beloved moonies proved wrong? I present the facts. The source twisted the facts. Misrepresented where the jobs had been created. They lied. They intentionally lied. How you dont' see that as decimating their argument is beyond me. OR, maybe they should do their homework and PROVE COAL MINING jobs are back. Using the entirety of 'mining' is bogus and you know it. Coal mining employment is not EVER going to return to where it was. NEVER.

Now, tell me... how many liberals do you know who are fiscal conservatives? Or, even better. When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? Why don't you start a thread on that... and we'll let the board be the judge.
>When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? <

i did that a short time after aibafs was first created, you asserted you were a "moderate" even though you consistently attack conservative thought and support liberal crap, now if you want to start a little "let's have the other members vote on what nolax's political beliefs are," there's no doubt in my mind that it will be pointed out you're a liberal, now, since you're so adamant about it, why don't you start the thread on yourself to keep any other poster from violating the callout thread rule, okey-dokey?
That's right. I'm a moderate. I hardly think pointing out logical fallacies or errors of facts constitute an attack. If that's the case, everything I learned in my debate classes was in error. It appears that you think in black and white. And the world is full of gray. Full of nuance.

Not that you've noticed.
you have no right to say anyone has no balls, first you challenge me to start a thread about you which is a rule violation, then when i point out you start it about yourself you chicken out, also, you're not a moderate, you're a liberal, quit denying it, no ones buying, lol!!
I should start a thread not knowing which topics you'd like to discuss? And I'm pretty sure that if we asked Pete he wouldn't object. And by your response, it's clear you don't understand the beliefs of a moderate...
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Post by antilib » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:04 pm

nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:41 pm
antilib wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:26 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:52 pm
antilib wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 am
nolaxride wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:54 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:27 pm
nolaxride wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:23 pm
antilib wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:11 pm


Coal's Colossal Comeback
Apr 18, 2017

Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs.

What a turnaround. Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephen ... k-n2314519

it must suck to be you, huh, lol?
As was illustrated earlier... there is a difference between 'mining' and 'coal mining'.

The mining (except oil and gas) subsector consists of these industry groups:
  • Coal Mining: NAICS 2121
  • Metal Ore Mining: NAICS 2122
  • Nonmetallic Mineral Mining and Quarrying: NAICS 2123
the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics4_212200.htm

https://www.eia.gov/coal/annual/

If this is how life sucks, watching you get schooled for not doing your homework, is great.
>the growth wasn't in coal mining... had it been in coal mining, townhall would have broken that out. It wasn't. They didn't<

what? the words in the townhall article read: Liberals have been saying that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he said that he could bring coal jobs back. Well, so far, he has delivered on his promise.

:rofl:
I see. So you reviewed the numbers for coal, metal ore, and non-metallic mineral mining and concluded that coal had an 11k increase and the others had none.

And I'm sure you checked the EIA website to confirm that coal production was up... more people mining = more output, right? Except that the website says coal production is down 6.7 percent in the US. So, are you saying that coal hired 11k more employees to produce less coal?

https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/wee ... uction.php

Or is it possible that there are many more people involved in, let's say, gold mining? Or rock mining? Or mineral mining? Or salt mining? Or iron and copper mining?

And perhaps that is where the increase occurred, and the writer didn't have balls to tell ALL of the story?
once again you chose to go after the source, your usual style when you can't win an argument or debate, btw, you're the one who don't have balls, (to admit you're a liberal) ain't that right, sonny, lol?
Are you uncomfortable when you see your beloved moonies proved wrong? I present the facts. The source twisted the facts. Misrepresented where the jobs had been created. They lied. They intentionally lied. How you dont' see that as decimating their argument is beyond me. OR, maybe they should do their homework and PROVE COAL MINING jobs are back. Using the entirety of 'mining' is bogus and you know it. Coal mining employment is not EVER going to return to where it was. NEVER.

Now, tell me... how many liberals do you know who are fiscal conservatives? Or, even better. When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? Why don't you start a thread on that... and we'll let the board be the judge.
>When have you ever asked me about my political beliefs? <

i did that a short time after aibafs was first created, you asserted you were a "moderate" even though you consistently attack conservative thought and support liberal crap, now if you want to start a little "let's have the other members vote on what nolax's political beliefs are," there's no doubt in my mind that it will be pointed out you're a liberal, now, since you're so adamant about it, why don't you start the thread on yourself to keep any other poster from violating the callout thread rule, okey-dokey?
That's right. I'm a moderate. I hardly think pointing out logical fallacies or errors of facts constitute an attack. If that's the case, everything I learned in my debate classes was in error. It appears that you think in black and white. And the world is full of gray. Full of nuance.

Not that you've noticed.
you have no right to say anyone has no balls, first you challenge me to start a thread about you which is a rule violation, then when i point out you start it about yourself you chicken out, also, you're not a moderate, you're a liberal, quit denying it, no ones buying, lol!!
I should start a thread not knowing which topics you'd like to discuss? And I'm pretty sure that if we asked Pete he wouldn't object. And by your response, it's clear you don't understand the beliefs of a moderate...
:rofl:

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